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PostSubject: Caravan of migrants marches toward US   Caravan of migrants marches toward US EmptyMon 22 Oct 2018, 4:43 pm

AN ARMY of thousands of people fleeing a catastrophic crisis are now marching towards the US border — and Donald Trump is not pleased.

FURIOUS and lashing out on Twitter, US President Donald Trump has vowed to stop up to 7000 “illegal aliens” who are edging towards the US border.

Hundreds more Central American migrants joined the massive caravan overnight, overwhelming Mexican Government attempts to stop them at the border.

Their numbers swelled to more than 5000 overnight and at first light they set out walking towards the Mexican town of Tapachula. However, local authorities are reporting that there are now 7000 people taking part in the march north.

Many had crossed the border illegally in recent days by swimming or rafting across the Suchiate River, which separates Guatemala from Mexico.

Thousands of the desperate migrants are understood to be fleeing widespread violence, poverty and corruption in Honduras, where powerful street gangs rule their turf with brutality.

Despite its homicide rate dropping over recent years, Honduras still see 43 murders per 100,000 citizens, making it one of the most violent countries in the world. In comparison, the US homicide rate is 5.3 per 100,000 people.

However, as the migrants edge closer to the US, Mr Trump has to taken to Twitter to launch a scathing attack on his nation’s immigration laws and said he will do everything in his power to stop them.

“The Caravans are a disgrace to the Democrat Party,” he wrote “Change the immigration laws NOW!”

On Thursday, the President tweeted that the caravan was the “Democrats’ fault for weak laws!”

In a separate tweet on Sunday, he wrote: “Full efforts are being made to stop the onslaught of illegal aliens from crossing our Souther (sic) Border.”

Mr Trump added that the United States will turn migrants away if they do not apply for asylum first in Mexico.

Rodrigo Aveja, one of the caravan’s organisers, reported on Sunday night that the caravan included at least 5600 people.

On their way through the Mexican town of Ciudad Hidalgo, thousands of migrants camped in the town’s main square.

“You can’t even walk, there’s just so many people,” Gerardo Hernandez, head of the town’s emergency services, told Reuters. “So far, they’re all peaceful, thank God.”

Mexican agents had tried to block the massive crowd at the Guatemalan border.

However, they gave up and, once the migrants were through, the ragtag army received help at every turn from sympathetic locals who offered food, water and clothing.

Hundreds of Mexican residents driving pick-ups, vans and cargo trucks stopped to let the migrants clamber aboard.

Mexican authorities insisted those on the bridge would have to file asylum claims one at a time in order to enter the country.

“We want to get to the United States,” Maria Irias Rodriguez, 17, a migrant from Tegulcigalpa, Honduras, told The New York Times.

She was travelling with her eight-month-old daughter, two-year-old son and husband.

“If they stop us now, we’ll just come back a second time.”

More here https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/donald-trump-raging-as-growing-caravan-of-migrants-marches-toward-us/news-story/03dd8350c7472efb457c92fe5eb1c99b


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PostSubject: Re: Caravan of migrants marches toward US   Caravan of migrants marches toward US EmptyMon 22 Oct 2018, 4:48 pm

What catastrophic crisis?

The US are worse off than we are with illegals just walking in (like in Europe) at least they need to have a "boat" to get to Oz.

What can Trump do?  Bring out the Military? They have passed through various "safe places" but are hell bent on getting into the USA.
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PostSubject: CARAVAN OF CRAP!   Caravan of migrants marches toward US EmptyMon 29 Oct 2018, 11:57 am

https://wham1180.iheart.com/content/2018-10-23-lonsberry-the-caravan-of-crap/

Where do they shit?

The Hondurans in the caravan, the 7,000 people walking north to America, where do they go to the bathroom?

And eat and sleep and store their clothes?

And how is it that after a week on the road they are clean and their hair and clothes are well kept?

How is any of this possible?

And why do these people, supposedly fleeing intolerable conditions in their homeland, carry little flags from their homeland and break into its national anthem when the TV cameras show up?

And speaking of which, for oppressed people, they all seem to be pretty well fed, well groomed and well dressed. Their hair is neat and newly cut, their clothes are clean and in good repair, and they are built like people who have had ample nutrition all their lives, being well developed and, many of them, overweight.

And none of them look dirty or unkempt, like they had been sleeping on the ground for the last week.

There’s just nothing in any of this that makes sense.

Supposedly, these several thousand people spontaneously decided to leave Honduras, walking north in a group, hoping to trek the length of gang-plagued Mexico and present themselves as refugees and prospective Democrats at the American border.

Which, again, makes no sense whatsoever.

And leaves a lot of big questions unanswered, and ignored by the press. Such as, who organized this? Who is paying for it? How have they covered 500 miles in a week?

Seriously. Any number of American “reporters” have walked beside a sympathetic walker and talked about how this particular woman and her children had trekked half a thousand miles over the last week or so.

That’s 71 miles a day.

The best soldiers through history have been able to march 25 miles a day.

How have 7,000 people been fed and watered? And how have they gone to the bathroom? If the average person across the world produces about a pound of solid waste a day, that means that these folks are somehow disposing of more than three tons of feces each day.

That’s a heck of a lot of crap, even for a Central American roadway.

Provisioning such an army of people – the equivalent of 10 combat battalions in most of the world’s militaries – is a large task. Transporting and distributing the food and water necessary to keep those people moving is a massive chore which the press says nothing about.

The entire enterprise, as a spontaneous ad hoc event, is implausible.

As an orchestrated international attempt to influence an American election, it starts to make sense.

And ought to alarm us.

Unless it’s only Russians we don’t want screwing with our democracy.

Unfortunately, none of this has made the evening news. It’s almost as if the press, in whatever scheme is afoot, gladly accepts its role as propagandists to the American people.

Every story is sympathetic, as if an attempt to enlist viewers and readers in this caravan and the politics it symbolizes.

And so the story is not about an orchestrated attempt to manipulate electoral opinion and violate the borders and laws of the United States, it is about compassion and Trump and xenophobia and racism. It is the October surprise, it is the Blue Wave.

And it is all nonsense.

Because all of these people, if legitimate, have the ability to apply for American asylum in their own country – as do the residents of most nations of the world. We have consulates and embassies for a reason, and this is one of those reasons.

We also have laws and an oath of office for a reason.

Laws, so that “we the people” through our elected representatives clearly and systematically govern our society. Law is the means by which the people express and exercise their sovereignty. Disobedience to law is disobedience to the will of the people, it is the subverting of their sovereignty and franchise.

Breaking the law is denying you the vote. Your vote elects representatives – lets you pick the country’s direction – and the representatives write the law. If that law is ignored, your representation becomes meaningless.

You get screwed.

And the oath of office?

Members of Congress – even Democrats – swear an oath to “bear true faith and allegiance” to the Constitution, which establishes our system of laws and specifically charges the Congress with making the rules of naturalization and immigration.

Who comes across the border and under what conditions they can stay is a constitutional responsibility of the Congress. That is to be determined by a congressional vote, not by a Honduran mob.

Failure to insist on that – even for Democrats – is a violation of your congressman’s oath of office.

So there is not a Democrat or Republican response to this travelling army of invaders – there is only an American response.

And that is: Turn around and go home.

Because the law of the United States does not allow a mass entry like this. The law does not declare the borders open.

If Democrats and progressives don’t like that, they can try to change the law. If America’s progressives want open borders and believe all the world’s people have a right to live in the United States – as they say they do – then they should adjust immigration law accordingly.

But until then, if they are to keep their oaths of office, they must stand for the law and the border.

And they must tell their surrogates to turn around and go home.

Because this caravan is nothing more than a bunch of political shit.

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PostSubject: Re: Caravan of migrants marches toward US   Caravan of migrants marches toward US EmptyMon 05 Nov 2018, 5:20 pm

I read somewhere that the Buses they thought would take them into the USA weren't there. Poor things. Now they have to keep w.a.l.k.i.n.g. with sore feet.

Thankfully this lot aren't coming to Australia. USA doesn't want them either.
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PostSubject: Re: Caravan of migrants marches toward US   Caravan of migrants marches toward US EmptyMon 05 Nov 2018, 8:17 pm

They have no right to country shop and lob into America.
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PostSubject: Re: Caravan of migrants marches toward US   Caravan of migrants marches toward US EmptyTue 06 Nov 2018, 3:52 pm

I read something on Washington Post, I think it was, where some of the "caravan" were interviewed and they said they had been waiting for "the buses" which didn't come. They will continue to walk, sore feet and all. Geeze. American doesn't want them.

Thankfully, Australia is "girt by sea", so they can't even swim to try to get onto land here.

I think "asylum seekers" from Cuba had tried to get into the USA by swimming to Florida. I read/heard that somewhere but don't take my word for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Caravan of migrants marches toward US   Caravan of migrants marches toward US EmptyThu 08 Nov 2018, 6:30 pm

No its true lots of Cubans reached the US by boat.
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